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At this time I would like to ask readers of Seven Extraordinary Things to tell me how the navigational controls are working.  With 7XT you can move around the story using the Pages menu above the viewing window, you can advance to the next panel by clicking the image, you can use the directional controls below the window, the thumbnails below that, or the Chapters sidebar menu.

Please let me know which of these are useful to you, what is your preferred way to navigate the story, and any changes or improvements you would like to see.  Your feedback will help me fine tune the new site, which with any luck will be launching the Monday after Thanksgiving (November 29th).

24 Comments to Navigation

  1. by Gary

    On November 22, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    I would love to have a “previous page” button on the main page when you first view the comic. Right now it’s a pain to go back one or two pages. Otherwise everything is great! I love the comic and keep up the great work!

  2. by Tristan Parker

    On November 22, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    I like your navigation system. I think I use the next-page button most frequently, but I always give bonus-points to any comic that lets me click the image to turn the page. The thumbnails are handy sometimes, but not game-changing.

    The only thing I don’t like is having to click next-chapter at the end of every chapter. It’s nice being able to navigate by chapter, but it’s also nice being able to keep pressing “next page” when I’m reading.

  3. by Michael

    On November 22, 2010 at 11:44 pm

    I agree with Tristan. Having to click on “next chapter” instead of next page is a bit of a hassle. Other than that, it’s perfect.

  4. by Saxony

    On November 23, 2010 at 2:03 am

    I really like the current set up since it’s different and there are so many ways to ‘navigate.’

  5. by Angela

    On November 23, 2010 at 3:05 am

    I feel that the Chapter selection sidebar and the clicking on the image to go to the next page are keepers. Also,it’s nice to have the page selection thumbnails below in case I want to jump to a specific page, having the thumbnail makes it easier.

  6. by Craig

    On November 23, 2010 at 5:54 am

    Clicking the front page comic image takes me to the first page of the current chapter. I’d really prefer it to take me to that page within the chapter so that I can quickly use the ‘previous’ button when I miss a day, rather than clicking the appropriate number for that missed page.

    For best results, I probably most agree with Gary above.

  7. by Inumo

    On November 23, 2010 at 7:31 am

    Of the navigation tools you list, I like the page thumbnails, the chapter sidebar, image-clicking to advance, and the controls below the page. I don’t mind the front page image taking you to the start of the chapter, so long as the pages don’t require closer viewing to get all the detail from the front page. That way you can catch up on one specific arc if you need to, or can just look at the front page to see the current page if you’re all caught up. I think that, if the page thumbnails are present, you won’t need the page numbers over the page you’re viewing.

    My two cents.

  8. by Chris

    On November 23, 2010 at 7:44 am

    I believe that the ends of chapters should let one move to the next if they say “go to next page” by clicking the button or clicking the frame. I disagree rather fiercely that there should be ANY changes to the front page. The thumbnail pages in the chapters, BRILLIANT! The different banner at the top every time the page is pulled up/ reloaded, overall design and the easy access to all the information is great! I’m the sorta guy who can have had a facebook for over 2 years and still not get it (I really don’t, honestly!). The fact that everything is set up aesthetically is so brilliant, and as far as this comic goes… You breath life into a completely possible scenario (save lack of sleep for Greg! Great idea, too!) using only blacks and whites (save for those few with red, also brilliant!) and make a story so new and unique, it is truly refreshing! Most web-comics make use of their story only and leave the illustration as simply that, an illustration, to further explain what is already known. You use “silent” slides, where the concepts are found in the drawing rather than the text. Emotion is clearly expressed, and I commend you for your hard work. This is truly an amazing comic, and I look forward to more of your work after this!

  9. by Tyler

    On November 23, 2010 at 8:04 am

    I to believe clicking on the image on the front page should take me to that page and not the first page of the chapter. It’s annoying because, as already stated above, if i miss a day I click on the image then have to scroll down to find where I left off at as oppose to simply pressing a single previous button.

  10. by Carl-E

    On November 23, 2010 at 9:04 am

    I agree with Gary, there definitely needs to be a “previous” button on the homepage. Aside from that, I’m more visual, so the thumbnails are more helpful than the page numbers for me. They take some time to load, though. I don’t know if thatcan be made more efficient…

    And I second (third?) the idea that you should be able to “Next” your way into a new chapter. I’ve been reading since early in chapter 2, so it hasn’t been a big issue for me, but it will be for archive trawlers.

  11. by Cath

    On November 23, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Adding my vote that the front page image go to the current page when clicked, not the start of the chapter.
    Also in favor of “next page” actually going to the next page (even if it’s in the next chapter), rather than just sitting there like a recalcitrant 2 year-old.

  12. by Brett

    On November 24, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    I don’t always check in every day so I like to go back a few days to make sure I haven’t missed any frames. At any rate I like to go back a couple days to remember where we are in the story. I go to the current chapter on the sidebar, then click on the 3rd or 4th thumbnail back, then Next through to the current day.

    Current system works for me just fine, but maybe it would be an improvement to put, say, the most recent three thumbnails front and center, which would allow someone to catch up, or just click on the newest frame according to their preference.

  13. by Jon

    On November 24, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    I agree with Gary and Tristan. It would be nice if I could see the previous page without having to go into the chapter navigation page (although that is nice too) and it is annoying when you’re trying to tool through and you come to the end of the chapter and now you have to do something different. Next page should just take you to the first page of the next chapter from the end of a chapter. I love 7XT and will miss it; I can only hope that your next effort will just as good. Thank you for doing this and thank you for asking.

  14. by theLemur

    On November 24, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    I’m thinking that maybe I’m echoing a lot that’s been said, but here’s my suggestions and praises with the thought behind them:

    Clicking the image to go next = WIN. I wish every comic did it. It make navigating/reading a lot of pages at once much easier, especially when those pages have different physical dimensions. (I don’t even have to move my mouse to navigate – i can just keep hitting the left button on the track pad)

    Home page needs a “previous” button. If I don’t show up every day I have to do extra clicks. No, it’s not a lot of clicks, but I read hundreds of comics. An extra click here or there adds up to a lot of time. Plus, having buttons there is more intuitive.

    Clicking the comic on the home page should go to that comic’s page. It’s infinitely more intuitive for users.

    Chapter icons on the left = awesome. Much better than even chapter names that so many comics do. They give a sense of what the chapter is about — using graphics for a graphical medium. It makes so much sense. I wish more people thought of it. Of course, it only works for a limited run like 7XT. For a daily style webcomic running a strip every day for 11 years, that’s a bulky number of icons. But since you do stories like you do, it’s perfect.

    Previous button on the first page of a chapter should go to the last page of the previous chapter. Web comics should not be thought of as physical comic books, where you have to do something different to go to another chapter. They are related mediums, but not the same. It should be easier to get to previous chapters.

    By the same logic, “Next” on the final page of a chapter should go to the first page of the next chapter.

  15. by Shaharw

    On November 24, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    Hate to say it but I didn’t even realize that clicking on the page would advance it. I’ve been using the navigation buttons below the picture. Bummer, that would have saved me some time.
    I do love that there are so many ways of find your way around the comic. Going back and re-reading a section is so much easier with the thumbnails than having to go back and look through someone’s archive lists.

  16. by Alyson

    On November 24, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    I like these controls. I mostly used the little numbers on top of the page. One thing I didn’t like was that on the front page it showed the whole comic except small. I always ended up reading the whole thing before I could get to the larger image. Other than that I think the controls were fine.

  17. by Al

    On November 25, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    Actually, I like the way the site is setup. I’ve used all the controls at different times. When I come to the end of the chapter, the difference serves to let me know. I also like your dedication to story and I like your art style.

  18. by Lorenzo

    On November 25, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    They are all useful. I would just like to have them on the front page too.

  19. by goggleman64

    On November 27, 2010 at 6:51 am

    I agree that having all the navigation tools readily available on the front page would make catching up on a missed day much less cumbersome. I also suggest moving the ‘next/previous’ buttons so that they’re above the image; then, when I miss a day, the ‘previous page’ will be in the first place I look.

    I too think that the thumbnails make the up-top page numbers obsolete, and that ‘next page’ (and ‘previous page’) should be allowed to bridge the gaps between chapters, and that the click-page-move-forward system is nice.

    In addition: I feel honored to have the chance to watch as you finish this excellent story. Bravo, bravo, and thank you!

  20. by Seth

    On November 27, 2010 at 10:35 am

    I think the present navigation system is simple, intuitive, and unobtrusive, with the sole exception that hitting the chapter button once I’ve finished re-reading a portion of the story disrupts my personal flow. If it were my choice, I’d allow the Next Page button to move between chapters.

  21. by Phil

    On November 27, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    In the past, when clicking on the current comic would bring you to the first page of the current chapter, I would click the small number for the page I was looking for, then navigate more precisely via the previous/next page buttons on the bottom. I have also found the quick chapter links on the left sidebar useful.
    All in all, with the fix so that clicking from the homepage brings you to the current comic instead of the first page of the current chapter, this site is easy and excellent to navigate.

  22. by Tera Bell

    On November 28, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    First to “Like”!

  23. by Tera Bell

    On November 28, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    Never mind! [:

  24. by TC

    On November 29, 2010 at 5:32 am

    I like how it’s set up, except for two things that I think would really help:

    1. Make the image posted on the main page link to the same image in the archives, rather than going to the start of the chapter–so the latest image goes to the latest comic, in other words.

    2. Put some kind of “end of chapter” note next to the last page, if your coding allows it, or make the “next page” link just go into the next chapter. For those of us who love to sit down and read the whole thing, this makes the process less disjointed.

    First time commenting, so I’ll go ahead and add that this has been a great read, and I look forward to seeing more of your works 🙂

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